Not Logged In Log In   Sign Up   Points Leaders
Follow Us    4:50 AM

Message Forum - Read Message

Category: Car Talk > Topics Add to favorite topics   Post new topicPost New Topic
Author Topic: 75 percent of Toyota Prius owners wouldn't buy again: Topic is locked Back to Topics
contiki

Champion Author
Ontario

Posts:9,515
Points:589,915
Joined:Sep 2008
Message Posted: Apr 25, 2012 7:09:48 AM

75 percent of Toyota Prius owners wouldn't buy again:

A recent Polk survey reveals that hybrids cars aren't developing repeat customers.

Bad news for manufacturers of hybrid cars: costumer loyalty is low, as only 35 percent of owners purchased another hybrid when buying a new car from 2008 to 2011.

Keep in mind those numbers are for overall brands, not specific models.
No matter how you slice it, the report has to take some of the wind out of the sales for hybrid manufacturers, who are riding high in 2012....

But with hybrids only making up 2.5% of all new car sales, the sample size is simply too small to make any concrete judgments.

Read it here.......
REPLIES (newest first)
Profile Pic
Muk2012
Rookie Author Augusta

Posts:15
Points:22,050
Joined:Aug 2012
Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 9:48:13 AM

I own a Civic Hybrid and I will buy again if got a price that is more than reasonable.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 9:42:41 AM

OK
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 12, 2012 11:05:19 PM

right you are tiki!!!!!!!!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 7:06:32 AM

We won't either!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 7:06:42 AM

Would love a Ford Mustang plug-in hybrid!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 6:29:27 AM

right you are tiki!!!!!!!! I see it!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 6:37:38 AM

Were trading ours for the new Ford hybrid this fall.
Profile Pic
capsfan2013
Rookie Author Maryland

Posts:6
Points:12,620
Joined:Aug 2012
Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 12:52:59 PM

Not surprised... The cost is probably going to go down with the advances in technology, but most of the car companies are continuing to make their own advances in car tech so the likelihood of having non hybrid and having a higher mpg car is more likely and also comparable to the Prius. heck, even Ferrari has a hybrid.
Profile Pic
GrumpyCat
Champion Author Alabama

Posts:2,757
Points:810,870
Joined:Jun 2009
Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:35:07 AM

"Interesting, since 100% of the people I know that have one, would not consider buying anything else."

Since I bought a new 2007 Prius I have purchased a new 2008 F-250. Recently traded that for a 2009 ML320 Bluetec. Still not interested in replacing the Prius.

What the Yahoo! re-writer didn't understand and as a result most who only read the cited Yahoo! re-write and not the original Polk study is that the numbers are of hybrid owner's next purchase. If we were all single-vehicle owners then this would make sense but few who own two vehicles chose similar. The whole point in having a second vehicle is to have something that serves where the first is lacking.

My Prius can not pull my travel trailer. The F-250 would loaf along with a mere 6000 pounds in tow. The ML will work harder but is more right-sized for my needs and useful for things the F-250 was not.
Profile Pic
reb4
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,361
Points:1,849,825
Joined:Sep 2004
Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 8:41:03 AM

bikergirlss, do you mainly do highway driving? If your leasing with fair market value it might make sense to get another vehicle. Prius maintains price better than most, and they will have no trouble selling a used prius with so few miles.

You do know your hybrid battery is warranted for 100K miles.Expensive Hybrid Car Battery Replacements Are Unnecessary

"Toyota officials report that of the 1.1 million Prii sold in the United States over the past 10 years, only about 500 batteries have been replaced (0.05 percent). The batteries were originally built to last 150,000 miles, but they have exceeded expectations, with many Prii logging more than 250,000 miles on the original battery packs."

Ford Escape's seem to have a pretty good track record..
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 5:50:12 AM

right you are tiki!!!!!!!!
Profile Pic
bikergirlss
Champion Author Kansas

Posts:2,783
Points:178,850
Joined:Jun 2004
Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 3:46:02 PM

I probably will not buy mine, unless I have too- leasing it now and halfway to the end of it. If I have to buy it out at the end of the lease I will likely sell it then; there are too many cars out there now getting comparable gas mileage without the expensive battery. I've had it 18 mos and have just under 10k miles on it now so I don't think I'll have any problems getting rid of it.
Profile Pic
me2me2
Sophomore Author Illinois

Posts:223
Points:293,870
Joined:Aug 2011
Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 10:27:17 AM

We had a Honda Civic hybrid until this year. It was totaled in an accident and replaced with a Buick Verano. The hybrid was, as is the Buick, a commuter car. Initially 52 mpg was not uncommon with the hybrid, but as the batteries deteriorated we did good to get 41-42 mpg. Replacement battery price and the longevity of the batteries will keep me from another hybrid in the near future. Can buy a lot of gas for $3K.
Profile Pic
OilerFan
Champion Author Tulsa

Posts:14,184
Points:2,458,325
Joined:Aug 2005
Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 10:22:02 AM

100% of the Prius owners I know would buy again.
Profile Pic
FuelPump
Champion Author Los Angeles

Posts:21,609
Points:3,442,700
Joined:Apr 2003
Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 10:11:43 AM

Interesting, since 100% of the people I know that have one, would not consider buying anything else.
Profile Pic
reb4
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,361
Points:1,849,825
Joined:Sep 2004
Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 10:09:16 AM

I think with the addition of the expanded vehicles offered by the prius line, you will find they will continue to sell well.

Ford fans would drool (or ... druul...) on selling half the number of hybrids that are offered by Toyota. Many are being "swayed" by the mpg on highway...

Many people are still buying toyota, even if they don't buy a prius...

Not everyone buys the same vehicle for several decades...
Profile Pic
Banjoe
Champion Author Winnipeg

Posts:4,461
Points:641,595
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 8:07:15 AM

GBHUGVA - I wouldn't worry about Toyota too much. They've outgrown their growth cycle and are now into the maximizing return point on the curve. After 7 of their cars, I won't go back.

My point about relative numbers was directed at the 25% re-purchase statistic. If normal car owners re-purchase at at a rate of only 20%, then the Prius is doing fantastic at capturing dedicated owners. If industry average is 50% re-purchase rates, then Toyota is sliding into a bad place with the Prius.

I just need more information to understand what's going on is all.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 7:47:36 AM

Must be new comers to the hybrid seen, reb4. Were trading ours for the new Ford hybrid this fall. Any case they all keep money from mid-east(thats not the US, reb4) idiots!!
Profile Pic
reb4
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,361
Points:1,849,825
Joined:Sep 2004
Message Posted: Aug 4, 2012 3:56:36 PM

gbhugva, so now you use towels on your head.. I thought the term was sweat rags... I don't think thats an eastern thing though... Also if you use firefox it might help with your spelling issues...
Profile Pic
RorySten
Rookie Author Pennsylvania

Posts:2
Points:1,190
Joined:May 2004
Message Posted: Aug 3, 2012 3:18:06 PM

I have only had my 2011 Prius III since September 2011, and bought it new. I drive it mainly on the interstate and I put an average of 500-700 miles per week on it. At almost 30K, it has been flawless, and performs exactly as it's designed, i.e. it gets me and my stuff from here to there on the street/road comfortably with lowest fuel cost and emissions. What makes the Prius so fuel efficient is not just the Synergy HyBrid Drive, but also the unique body shape and overall construction (which is in its third generation in fourteen years.) That's why the same drive in the Camry's or Highlanders don't come close to matching in mileage.

As an American, I'm hearten to see Prius' sales success spurring design teams at Ford and GM to innovate in the same direction. If the HyBrid standard bearer, Prius wasn't a success, as the theme of this opening thread appears to posit, than I'm sure we would never be talking about a Ford Fusion or a Chevy Volt, at least not in 2012. This is a win win for everyone, bring it on! I've owned Toyotas, Fords, GMs, and Mazdas so I'm not biased other than to say "let the best value (not the cheapest) product win."

Happy driving,




Profile Pic
reb4
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,361
Points:1,849,825
Joined:Sep 2004
Message Posted: Aug 3, 2012 8:37:12 AM

gbhugva, you have an order in on that new Ford hybrid?

Don't you live out east gbhugva... don't be so hard on yourself...


[Edited by: reb4 at 8/3/2012 8:38:23 AM EST]
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 3, 2012 8:00:57 AM

Must be new comers to the hybrid seen, reb4. Were trading ours for the new Ford hybrid this fall. Any case they all keep money from mid-east idiots!!
Profile Pic
reb4
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,361
Points:1,849,825
Joined:Sep 2004
Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 3:40:56 PM

Prius New Car sales in July 2012 of 16,643. Prius YTD Sales of 143,297.
The Toyota Prius is the #1 selling Hybrid of all time, and the number keeps growing each year.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 12:55:58 PM

Banjoe, if I were toyota I'd be concerned!!
Profile Pic
Banjoe
Champion Author Winnipeg

Posts:4,461
Points:641,595
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 8:26:25 AM

Is this a meaningful statistic?

It would be interesting to see the Prius number compared to the percentage of all car owners buying the same car again.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 8:17:46 AM

I try to support jobs in our country, where ever posible. I lost my job of 29 years to outsourcing. I buy Ford!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 31, 2012 7:34:29 AM

right you are tiki!!!!!!!!!!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 30, 2012 3:05:31 PM

Poor sales contiki would indicate people do listen to C.Reports!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 29, 2012 8:56:22 PM

right you are tiki!!!!!!!!!!!!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 7:33:19 AM

25 would?
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 9:29:06 PM

Bridge, What problems has your neighbor had, we still don't drive in the rain. Breaks lock up when you just touch then lightly, scary, the wife won't drive it when its wet out. ave 41 mpg is the only good thing about the prius. Will trade it this fall for the new Ford hybrid.
Profile Pic
Bridge2012
All-Star Author Kansas

Posts:913
Points:271,690
Joined:Jan 2012
Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 2:43:19 PM

neighbor has one and has been in the shop many times. Happy they have enough money to pay for it.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 1:30:06 PM

My daughter's 1996 4dr Ford Escort handels curves better than our 2004 prius(wimpy tires)
Profile Pic
the1roadhog
Champion Author Atlanta

Posts:9,949
Points:2,081,505
Joined:Jun 2007
Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:09:59 AM

Small size, small tires.....I'm out.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 7:54:51 AM

right you are tiki, I won't buy one!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 9:03:23 AM

I hate the quality of my wifes crappy prius BUT.. it does get 40-45. I have had to use my wifes prius to track problems she finds, and calc. mpg's are right in there at 41-44 for ours. The gas milage is the ONLY thing I like about it. Our Ford Escape Hybrid is a much more versatile car with far better quality and ave. mpg is 32.5, for a larger, SUV is admerable. Looking foward to Ford's new hybrids getting 47 mpg, this fall!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 8:05:01 AM

Poor sales would indicate people do listen to C.Reports!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 5:47:11 AM

Those buying are most likely buying due to the mpg's and the high price of gas. The ave. customer does not take the time to work out the numbers. They would see that they are not worth it!
Profile Pic
prius22
Champion Author Twin Cities

Posts:2,364
Points:416,010
Joined:Apr 2012
Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 1:33:31 AM

Pointless surveys. Sales numbers do the real talking.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 5:36:27 PM

hate the quality of my wifes crappy prius BUT it does get 40-45. I have had to use my wifes prius to track problems she finds, and calc. mpg's are right in there at 41-43 for ours. The gas milage is the ONLY thing I like about it. Our Ford Escape Hybrid is a much more versatile car with far better quality and ave. mpg is 32.5, for a larger, SUV is admerable. Looking foward to Ford's new C-MAX hybrid getting 47 mpg, this fall!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 6:13:40 AM

your right contiki, I won't buy one!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 20, 2012 6:01:00 AM

Those buying are most likely buying due to the mpg's and the high price of gas. The ave. customer does not take the time to work out the numbers.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 19, 2012 3:52:42 AM

your right contiki, I won't buy one!
Profile Pic
reb4
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,361
Points:1,849,825
Joined:Sep 2004
Message Posted: Jul 18, 2012 8:42:46 AM

Prius sales are at # 14 this year for all vehicles. 126K vehicles have been sold in the 1st 6 months in US. Prius is #3 best selling vehicle world wide...

So, guess consumers are indicating the vehicle is a good value...
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 18, 2012 8:04:34 AM

Poor sales would indicate people do listen to CR.
Profile Pic
Carusle
Champion Author Atlanta

Posts:11,509
Points:2,277,850
Joined:Nov 2006
Message Posted: Jul 17, 2012 8:56:34 PM

I would not buy one to start with. TDI, diesel is the way to go.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 17, 2012 8:37:06 PM

Those buying are most likely buying due to the mpg's and the high price of gas. The ave. customer does not take the time to work out the numbers.
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 16, 2012 4:10:50 AM

your right contiki, I won't buy one!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 8:34:56 AM



I hate the quality of my wifes crappy prius BUT.. AA2009 it does get 40-45. I have had to use my wifes prius to track problems she finds, and calc. mpg's are right in there at 41-44 for ours. The gas milage is the ONLY thing I like about it. Our Ford Escape Hybrid is a much more versatile car with far better quality and ave. mpg is 32.5, for a larger, SUV is admerable. Looking foward to Ford's new hybrids getting 47 mpg, this fall!
Profile Pic
GBHUGVA
Champion Author Virginia Beach

Posts:4,697
Points:789,160
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Jul 14, 2012 11:52:18 AM

Poor sales would indicate people do listen to CR.
Topic is locked Back to Topics