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San Francisco Bay area transit considers imposing a mileage tax

GasBuddy Blog -- Under a proposal that is in its early stages, San Francisco Bay area drivers could be required to install GPS-like odometers or other devices in their vehicles and pay anywhere from a penny to 10-cents per mile driven, according to reports from AP and the Sacramento Bee.

The Metropolitan Transportation Commission and the Association of Bay Area Governments approved going forward with a study of a Vehicle Miles Traveled (VMT) tax as part of what the AP says is "a broader environmental review of several transportation options."

The current proposal would charge motorists a tax on every mile they drive in the nine-county region as a way to raise money for roads and public transit while reducing traffic and pollution.

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Submitted Jul 23, 2012 By: PD

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BEngr Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,711 Points:1,580,615 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:58:54 AM Ignore BEngr Report Abuse This might be more applicable for electric vehicles which arent paying their fair share of road taxes.
nascar1411 Champion Author Idaho Posts:1,898 Points:662,315 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:57:59 AM Ignore nascar1411 Report Abuse more taxes great!
rcornel All-Star Author San Diego Posts:724 Points:227,470 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:57:06 AM Ignore rcornel Report Abuse I hope it doesn't pass....
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:10,435 Points:2,006,495 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:57:00 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse Brilliant. Excellent way to depress a local economy and cause people to "vote with their feet" (i.e., move away from the jurisdiction).
MarAzul Champion Author London Posts:3,776 Points:679,485 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:56:36 AM Ignore MarAzul Report Abuse ok.
bodu All-Star Author Vancouver Posts:911 Points:280,385 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:56:12 AM Ignore bodu Report Abuse interesting invasion of privacy..
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,862 Points:362,130 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:55:52 AM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse Seems to me it would be much simpler and more practical to just put it on the gas tax.
Digger52 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,407 Points:848,935 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:54:51 AM Ignore Digger52 Report Abuse Old news
toneOH All-Star Author Ohio Posts:551 Points:32,195 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:54:24 AM Ignore toneOH Report Abuse k
NorthglennBill Champion Author Denver Posts:7,422 Points:1,471,945 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:54:21 AM Ignore NorthglennBill Report Abuse Big brother trying to get bigger. Don't let it happen or soon they will be watching every move you make.
MightyDude Champion Author Minnesota Posts:10,345 Points:2,647,770 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:54:18 AM Ignore MightyDude Report Abuse ignorance at its finest
syreda Sophomore Author Phoenix Posts:244 Points:60,610 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:53:54 AM Ignore syreda Report Abuse good grief... a Sunday drive could cost you 10.00 bucks just because they want more tax! California people wake up.. !
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,028 Points:1,487,855 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:53:32 AM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Will they make the driving tourists rent a GPS tracker while visiting?
sciotosix Champion Author Dayton Posts:2,749 Points:666,125 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:53:17 AM Ignore sciotosix Report Abuse This is not practical.
44Irish Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,490 Points:521,110 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:52:34 AM Ignore 44Irish Report Abuse Old news, move on
maryph1958 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,420 Points:283,095 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:52:00 AM Ignore maryph1958 Report Abuse ok
honkerman Champion Author San Jose Posts:44,237 Points:2,396,120 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:51:33 AM Ignore honkerman Report Abuse STOP!! Idiots Working [Edited by: honkerman at 7/24/2012 11:53:44 AM EST]
insightcruzer All-Star Author Oakland Posts:552 Points:191,145 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:49:52 AM Ignore insightcruzer Report Abuse yet another reason why I will not be living in California when I retire. I'm always amazed that California continues to vote in politicians who desire to socially engineer California into being a socialist, green society.
myambro Champion Author Sacramento Posts:3,204 Points:1,052,925 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:48:32 AM Ignore myambro Report Abuse Why would any politician use the tax $$ already on hand and designated for a specific purpose when she/he can make news with this wonderful new way to raise $$ for needed things? Or, why would they ever use $$ for needed things when they can instead fund pet projects that make them look good and then whine about having to cut necessary programs?
pa79th Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,782 Points:1,216,850 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:48:06 AM Ignore pa79th Report Abuse Good grief, how would they ever enforce that fairly?
Bigtex09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,288 Points:1,159,285 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:47:28 AM Ignore Bigtex09 Report Abuse losers, they could make more monies charging for breathing the air
TekWare Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,161 Points:672,900 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:45:40 AM Ignore TekWare Report Abuse Old news, still a bad idea.
THEDodgeman Champion Author Denver Posts:7,997 Points:1,947,515 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:41:43 AM Ignore THEDodgeman Report Abuse barst is greedy
Bezalel Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:12,098 Points:2,290,770 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:41:26 AM Ignore Bezalel Report Abuse Old news we've heard before. This taxes the gas guzzlers the same as the EV or hybrids and green cars. How will THAT help the environment? ! More government considering options without looking at the big picture.
tes283 All-Star Author Tampa Posts:865 Points:368,850 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:40:46 AM Ignore tes283 Report Abuse whoa, that is tough
DJRIO Champion Author Miami Posts:8,046 Points:1,425,585 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:40:32 AM Ignore DJRIO Report Abuse politicians always looking for new creative ways to tax. stop spending and like the rest of us learn to mange the the budget.
NotmeuQc Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,651 Points:1,133,925 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:39:04 AM Ignore NotmeuQc Report Abuse I don't think this will work. If I lived there and decided to drive across the US or Canada, this would really add on to the trip. Unless it turns itself off outside the area, I would not appreciate this.
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,069 Points:1,655,615 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:38:07 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse If I lived in that area, I would register my car in a different state. Things like this explain why California is traditionally a blue state.
bigmace111 Champion Author Albany Posts:2,723 Points:614,600 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:38:01 AM Ignore bigmace111 Report Abuse I thought that we were already paying a few cents tax on gasoline to help repair roads? What have they done with that money? I'm sure it went to some politician's pet project instead of where it was supposed to go.
kishoreCA Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,117 Points:392,895 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:37:12 AM Ignore kishoreCA Report Abuse tough to implement.
firechief Champion Author New York Posts:3,441 Points:2,066,150 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:35:36 AM Ignore firechief Report Abuse that's it force more taxes so people go broke sooner & go on public assistance
vjs3 Champion Author Denver Posts:2,541 Points:649,915 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:34:18 AM Ignore vjs3 Report Abuse Ouch...
19sheldon43 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,979 Points:843,010 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:34:10 AM Ignore 19sheldon43 Report Abuse If you can install then you can uninstall. Think about it. I don't think this is something we'll see soon
Donnade Rookie Author Anchorage Posts:96 Points:887,020 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:31:35 AM Ignore Donnade Report Abuse As suggested before--just add another penny or two onto the tax--let everyone pay.
BWJM Champion Author KW Posts:1,113 Points:303,780 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:31:13 AM Ignore BWJM Report Abuse ok
slvrdo_dsprdo Champion Author Nashville Posts:4,699 Points:913,015 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:31:08 AM Ignore slvrdo_dsprdo Report Abuse There's already a mass exodus out of California. Sounds like they're aiming to speed it up!
ARCO Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:2,348 Points:2,377,370 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:31:01 AM Ignore ARCO Report Abuse WHAT'S LEFT TO TAX ?
kelly1016 Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,953 Points:352,940 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:30:46 AM Ignore kelly1016 Report Abuse This would be every unfair to those who need to use their cars for work.
gbs1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,996 Points:742,375 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:30:10 AM Ignore gbs1 Report Abuse Not a good idea, but what else would you expect from California.
IMLURCH Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,184 Points:1,103,180 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:30:09 AM Ignore IMLURCH Report Abuse That is what the gas taxes are for. So they want people there to pay double.
GasSpy007 Champion Author New York City Posts:1,816 Points:487,350 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:29:56 AM Ignore GasSpy007 Report Abuse Dumb du dumb dumb.. :-))
iamforiu Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,570 Points:710,665 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:26:33 AM Ignore iamforiu Report Abuse ok
JXQW Champion Author Kansas City Posts:2,787 Points:684,175 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:25:09 AM Ignore JXQW Report Abuse right, that wipes out the advantage of taking it
speedys Champion Author Utah Posts:7,015 Points:2,558,845 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:25:06 AM Ignore speedys Report Abuse California is tax crazy.
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,027 Points:1,389,080 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:23:18 AM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse What happened to the gas tax that was suppose to maintain road and bridges. If the voters in California keep voting in these politicians, they deserve it.
diabloMN Veteran Author Twin Cities Posts:335 Points:206,480 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:23:00 AM Ignore diabloMN Report Abuse Add a penny to the states gas tax. You'll never see the price increase because the oil companies increases would dwarf any tax.
msgt_usa Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,468 Points:932,855 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:21:58 AM Ignore msgt_usa Report Abuse Everything is taxed in California
kirzon484 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,866 Points:433,285 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:20:56 AM Ignore kirzon484 Report Abuse no more drive vacations
carpenter4u Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,436 Points:616,395 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:20:41 AM Ignore carpenter4u Report Abuse Why would anyone keep electing these people
esorsd Champion Author St. Louis Posts:5,738 Points:1,638,740 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:19:53 AM Ignore esorsd Report Abuse Ouch.
sprocketsplines Champion Author Washington Posts:1,682 Points:860,640 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 11:18:13 AM Ignore sprocketsplines Report Abuse The Greater Vancouver Regional District (GVRD) imposes a gas tax to support transit and GVRD area transportation infrastructure. Recently (July 1, 2012) a carbon tax was added to the existing gas tax.