LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2009 11:33:07 PM
BKool from Michigan...
As usual, you are not seeing the big picture...only your tiny corner to prove your bogus claims. You have put a debt clock up as a citation which is so out of context it is impossible to draw any conclusions.
There is no industrialized country in the world, that I am aware of without some debt, if you think otherwise you need to find one and move.
As an American it is completely presumptuous for us to determine what the Australian government can and cannot afford. They obviously think this project is good for their people or they would not be funding renewable energy and wave technology. Who are we to disagree? We don't live or vote there.
The Australian dollar is currently the sixth-most-traded currency in the world, and projected to continue to increase in strength in the next few years.
The unemployment rate is somewhere near 6%; the inflation rate has cooled to the slowest pace in 10 years. Australia has an enviable, strong economy with a per capita GDP on par with the four dominant West European economies. Emphasis on reforms, low inflation, a housing market boom, and growing ties with China have been key factors over the course of the economy's 17 solid years of expansion.
It has robust business and consumer confidence, and high export prices for raw materials and agricultural products which fueled the economy in recent years, particularly in mining states.
Something really good is going on in Australia. So don't knock it unless you can provide us with citations that make sense!
[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 11/8/2009 11:34:52 PM EST]
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Bonanza

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Boston
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2009 12:26:22 PM
More government money given to the rich
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MnMarty

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2009 9:53:12 AM
The wave of the future.
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RobRD

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 11:13:50 PM
This sounds like a great idea. Why haven't other countries adopted it.
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BburgCW

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 5:53:53 PM
Excellent news! wonderful to read another article about this energy capturing technique.
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cagustin

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Fresno
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 5:12:17 PM
Renewable energy with job security... what's not to like?
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me2Ky09

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 3:17:41 PM
Costs will come down the more plants are built. Doing nothing, just makes for higher prices in the future. Doesnt America "invest" in Anything any more? Are you Not glad our parents paid for all the Dams? Where are OUR LEADERS? Are we so polarized we cant move to protect our nation?
As for all the things that can go "wrong" with this idea, seams to me that a great deal is wrong with Gas (oil spills in shipping it, Lead in the air, not to mention how it pollutes the ground water). Now isnt there always a problem with everything? To do nothing will just make gas prices rise until we can no longer afford it.
This Company"s stock is only eight bucks a share.
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headhog

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 3:06:55 PM
I will be interesting to see if this works.
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thirstyauto

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 3:04:26 PM
So, would this work with lake power as well???
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jwduke1

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:56:22 PM
Sounds like a good deal if it works.
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:54:20 PM
I hope this works, but wonder at the cost per MW before it becomes cost effective.
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garman87

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Austin
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:51:45 PM
We need as many ways to get off oil.
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Tatalah

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:49:09 PM
Nothing like a little free power
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threewheeler

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:44:32 PM
will it help?
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Zeke33

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:41:50 PM
I good idea to save oil. The environmentalists will find fault somewhere.
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antur

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:40:23 PM
Good. At least they will get some experience paid by not US citizens.
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CISA

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:40:15 PM
The ultimate factor in all energy production, delivery and supply is variable cost, fixed cost, ROI and cost to consumer. A free market will ferret out the best and cheapest -- just keep the agenda folks (BHO, Pelosi, Reid; Palin, Romney; etc) OUT of the command and control business!
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LanguageMan1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:34:29 PM
It's about time, and it's only a drop in the bucket compared to what could be done and what they've given to the banks and wealthy in this country and around the world.
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rjoeh

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:30:04 PM
Unless the oceans of the world dry up, this will be a never ending source of power. and to harness it for good is a positive thing.
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:28:15 PM
More government money given to the rich.
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waynemustang

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:22:58 PM
Greedy renewable energy companies need to pay for their own projects.
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waynemustang

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:17:37 PM
Corporate welfare for Ocean Power. What a mooch.
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jd2009

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:16:19 PM
What a great idea ... hope it works
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NavyStore

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:12:39 PM
Ever notice how those that belong to 'The Party of NO' make blanket statements (GasOkie - "They have tried to harness the tide. They have tried to harness the waves. None of that worked very good.") but never put up any evidence?
It would be laughable but nowadays, if you give them actual, peer-reviewed evidence, they just say you are wrong and that they 'know it is a left-wing, socialist, environmentalist trick'. Just goes to show that the 'War on Education' has succeeded!
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lindact

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:08:05 PM
Somes like a simple yet great idea.
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srobins81

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Portland
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:04:05 PM
I am alarmed at the number of people who either don't use spell/grammer check or are just plain uneducated that post here.
[Edited by: srobins81 at 11/7/2009 2:04:41 PM EST]
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Grizzly1505

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 2:03:26 PM
@gasokie
you are mistaken.Because Americans are not able and willing to harness energy from tides, does not mean it can't be done elsewhere. In Holland (that's in Europe) the energy of the tide is harnessed very efficiently at the northern part of it called Lake Ijssel for decades.they also have big wind farms like the ones in Germany.
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nimpy

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:59:57 PM
This is interesting. I hope it works
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jiamusi45

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:55:51 PM
Wave power is a good solution but it has it's issues, google wave power.
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TomJDriver

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London
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:53:13 PM
Good on them. This has been perfected over many years and the government money is to build a systems with tested technology not a grant to study it. Unfortunately there are health problems living near wind turbines. If only they could get power from wind in uninhabited portions of the outback to populated areas effectively.
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dhnbBUG

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:52:20 PM
As simple as that.
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NavyStore

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:51:46 PM
Very cool! Oh, and GasOkie, something tells me you're a 'Drill here, Drill now' kind of guy... Seen that Golden Driller lately? He needs to be holdings a windmill and have solar panels at his feet...
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dopster

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:51:24 PM
Research costs money. Simple as that.
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:46:25 PM
They have tried to harness the tide. They have tried to harness the waves. None of that worked very good. Now they are trying to horness somebody else' money. That is going very well, thank you.
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repeater1

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:45:27 PM
Now if they can bring it in on time and within budget it would be great.
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PDQBlues

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:45:12 PM
Great news! There is energy in them there waves! :-)
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ByGuy

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:41:15 PM
Sounds good!
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arnerator

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:40:34 PM
Jeez.....how clean can you get ??
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gasokie

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:39:10 PM
Yeah. What Ashbury says.
And. Hasn't this been tried before? Maybe 3X? And-are re we payin' for this or are the Aussies?
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Cuzilla

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:38:07 PM
This is not a new idea. It has been around since the 70's that I am aware of. Using the tides is another idea floated back then also. These exotic schemes will only work if oil stays very high and is not seen likely to come down.
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CLM06

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:30:16 PM
Initially high but what about maintenance costs dealing with all that salt
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Asbury09

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:29:51 PM
sounds like a Rube Goldberg idea
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balljars

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:29:08 PM
Now there is a new idea. I hope this works out.
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SUPERQUACK

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:27:30 PM
that much money for 10000 homes ?
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AtascaderoHound

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California
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:23:55 PM
The fuel is sure cheap!
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milespergallon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:19:06 PM
Such a simple idea, wonder why it wasn't developed a long time ago.
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Tonester1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:18:13 PM
I like it.
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Paw5X

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Gary
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:16:32 PM
Hope this works and we can learn something.
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TECH500

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:11:55 PM
Interesting ... lets see how that pans out for them.
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netman044

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2009 1:11:40 PM
If the underwater cable is compromised, do you have an electricity spill?
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