DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2009 4:09:37 PM
Roubini is a "glass half-empty" kind of guy.
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Franck

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 7:44:44 PM
It is too premature to claim that there is an asset price bubble in oil. The price declines that occurred during the financial crisis a year ago are still fresh in the minds of many investors.
Gold, on the other hand, has been rising fairly steadily since 1999. Bubbles need sustained price increases to generate more momentum & long speculation. If I had to pick a commodity showing characteristics of an asset price bubble, I'd pick gold, not oil.
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adr47

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Saskatchewan
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 1:42:41 PM
The greedy ones will screw us again.
Greed Rules
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earlybirdMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 11:38:00 AM
enough already
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earlybirdMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 11:37:12 AM
nuthin i didnt already know
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earlybirdMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 11:36:00 AM
good for him
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 11:24:21 AM
certainly sounds reasonable; we'll see how it plays out long term
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Zakmeister

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:34:45 AM
So what else is new?
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w4kh

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:27:12 AM
Any business or person who does not want to see their money disappear, is looking to commodities and equities, given the low interest rates... the increased number of players and money in these markets equates to increased demand, which in turn equates to rising prices, hence crude oil futures near $80/barrel and the equities markets rebounding - it is NOT because of economic recovery, but rather because of weak dollar and attempts to hedge against declining value.
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qmyster

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Denver
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:21:53 AM
It should be around 30 a barrel.
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Cheepo

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:13:38 AM
Yes, humblepie, wake up AMERICA!!!!!!!
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granma3xnow

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:13:25 AM
Our future is in the hands of speculators.
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AC-302

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:12:58 AM
Gold is at an all time high right now, too. Eventually it will fall. If you bought gold when it was $500 or $600, you'd be fine, but not now when it's over $1100.
It's interesting that we have colliding market forces that may throw the market into turmoil again. And once again, the commodities traders are bidding up the price too much. Another oil rise and fall will set our economy (and the world economy) back enough. Instead of allowing oil speculation leverage of 1 to 20, the government should throttle it back to something like 1 to 4 or 5. That would put the brakes on wild speculation, because the oil traders then couldn't control that much of the market.
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humblepie

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:09:41 AM
if washingtons printing presses keep spitting out iou's 24/7 commodities will continue to rise, does anyone think gold is going back to $300 an ounce ? washington is giving away our way of life to get re-elected by morons who scream change and give us the same old thing "wake up america"
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sleepyt

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:09:40 AM
Interesting information, indeed - and not surprising. This has happened before after market crashes, when money fled securities for commodities. As described below, it is demand push inflation.
That said, don't think for a minute that Keynesian government spending won't eventually stimulate the US economy. It'll work - it is one of the few economic theories that actually has predictive power.
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Jamer

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:09:19 AM
More speculation which costs us money.
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CISA

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:09:11 AM
He sees asset prices going higher -- yet wants a second stimulus. Hyopcrite?
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BeaverBilly

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:08:42 AM
I would rather buy Gold than invest in commodities right now. Everyone is dumping US Dollars. You have to follow what China is doing.
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Asbury09

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:06:24 AM
this whole thing is getting more interesting all the time
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Toppers

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:05:35 AM
Hopefully we've learned and...are ready for it...
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tazdriver

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:03:50 AM
We need to take care of the US and it will help revive the economies around the world
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kfinto

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Texas
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:03:31 AM
With the government printing dollars like they are going out of style why would anyone invest in the U.S. dollar?
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Voltus

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Miami
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 10:01:54 AM
Interesting info, will use it for my investments.
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BlackGumTree

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:59:54 AM
Fools! People who have dollars are getting rid of them by trading them for commodities that will hold their value better. A bubble in the commodities is not what they need.
The dollar is losing value. That is why prices are going up. It takes more of the cheaper dollars to buy today what you bought last year. Its called inflation. And it is stimulated by Deficit Spending.
When will they learn. The Economy is what needs to be stimulated, not Inflation!
Hey! Its the Economy, Stupid!
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rvn4me

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Texas
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:59:50 AM
When is the administration going to stop this like he promised? Seems like that was just another lie. They are trying to turn us into a third world country and are doing a good job of it.
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spunky4443

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:58:30 AM
Oh well this is part of life.
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hank1326

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:57:33 AM
Excellent point by jony. The reactive current administration is all talk and no action. Worst of all they are selfishly locked in on their agenda instead of real issues.
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Pucked

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:56:57 AM
Talking heads - talking heads and more talking heads!
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eddyp94

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:56:50 AM
there is no reason for riseing oil prices except greed...
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traindude

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:54:08 AM
i'd just like to have steady income and not have to worry all the time about bills and insurance
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Dale Jr.

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:53:04 AM
I like to see a loud bang and see all those investors scramble.
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ironbox_sara

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Albany
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:52:32 AM
Re-write the article so we can understand the damn thing.
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dabuzman

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:52:03 AM
Only wise the bubble would blow up to never be recover. Then maybe all the speculators would be out of the market.
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bad_sailor

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London
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:51:11 AM
Big deal.
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MightyDude

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:50:13 AM
what goes around comes around
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DABEE1073

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:50:07 AM
TALK IS CHEAP. IT TAKES MONEY TO BY WHISKEY.
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vizilo

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:46:07 AM
Will he be right a second time? No one will remember if he was wrong
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doncNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:44:05 AM
Bubbles burst but I think the gold price will hold.
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148366

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Spokane
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:43:21 AM
They never learn that bubbles burst but they keep flying to the flame.
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RedRam2005

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:41:07 AM
This could bite the speculators again. But the rest of us will have to pay the price in the mean time.
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VetteBlue

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:39:20 AM
Speculators are everywhere.
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copperhead8

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Boston
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:37:27 AM
Only time will tell the outcome.
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dopster

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:34:00 AM
Re-regulate Wall Street.
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jony

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Florida
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:33:22 AM
I thought the "administration" was going after the spectulators? Oh my mistake
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Tonester1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:30:34 AM
Who the heck is Roubini?
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:29:51 AM
money chasing commodities = money chasing money
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neptune2008

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:28:17 AM
speculation speculation speculation
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kyrunner

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:26:33 AM
Americans confidence in our economy is at all time lows. We can't figure out what the federal government is trying to do with our monetary system with the huge spending and therefore the chances of major downturns are always around the corner.
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Ltdc

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:24:32 AM
Some investors never learn their lesson.
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BazooQC

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 9:23:17 AM
The stock markets have plunged so much, a correction to former prices is now seen as a bubble. Hummm.
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